Occasional users will by definition be hardly affected while youd punish the majority of users, and indeed risk their commitment to use public transit. The next state government forced the city transit operators to simplify their systems and work together for the next contract . On the other hand, the short single trip, for a person without a monthly pass, will be unreasonably expensive, for example creating cruel incentives for poor people to walk for 25 minutes in the rain, instead of taking a bus 6 stops. The system is a horrible mess seemingly designed to trap one into expense unless you choose conditions that are no ones first choice. Question is not whether, its by how much. For bigger cities, POP is appropriate. Of course fare gates need manning so outside of the busiest stations fare gating is often a peak time only operation. 2023 BSB Solicitors | Website development by Totally There are no large groups of transit users versus non-transit users locked in some zero-sum lethal fight over spoils (which in a US-context is really just the ordinary culture war conflict, transplanted on transit). https://pedestrianobservations.com/2019/10/24/numerology-in-transportation/#comment-67419. It caused continuous scale back of services but all see it as a natural result of motorization and expansion of highway into rural area, in addition to aging and reducing population in rural area, although even the Japanese COmmunist Party is support of the union against privatization failed to imagine the scale of effect its causing right now in their PR material at the time. So its not really that Berlin doesnt care if criminals discourage ridership among law-abiding customers, its that Berlin doesnt treat every rider as a criminal who must constantly be watched and monitored. Ref: Brief history of the Paris metro. We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the Having said that, I have dark forebodings about the EU open access directive coming into force on all railways. This is hard to accept for our (moderate) right out of principle, but they now seem to be listening to solid arguments for operational efficiency. Slightly curiously Stockholm has faregates (as you certainly know). In fact, the UKs disaster of rail privatisation saw much higher subsidy from central government than before privatisation! The lack of S-bahn style operation patterns in the non-megacity regions is a failure of government and private-sector since no-ones pushing it. Even though the Key card offers pay-per-ride functionality in addition to calendar passes, its $10 up-front cost and the difficulty of maintaining a payment balance force economically-marginal riders to use cash instead. being applied to NYC-MTA. The fine in Berlin is 60. The consequences for me as regards my right to work in the UK were extremely high, and so this situation was cause for lots of stress. Finally, monthly passes are regressive for people with very low incomes, and uncertain cash flows, as they may simply not be able to make bulk purchases.. They are cited in the same way that a fare evader is, even though theyve obviously paid the fare. Not least, via job access. I wasimmediately madeto feel at ease at our first meeting and they always provided very clear instructions and advice throughout our email communications. When I had an unlimited pass in New York, Id travel from Eastern Queens near the city limits to Manhattan for school on the weekdays, and go to Flushing on the weekends. I am a bit sheepish to admit that for all the years I benefitted from the subsidised Carte Orange monthly card (now Navigo) in Paris, I never knew who subsidised it. > However, again one should compare the compact arrangement of Ile de France versus what happens with Japan & Tokyos laissez-faire development policies. Here is an argument for the 45-swipes threshold. These costs are financial, environmental and also pertain to health and wellbeing. One could envision that stationing 1 officer / entry watching for fare evasion should bring that fare evasion down to nearly 0 regardless of types of gates, as well as put a significant dent at crime since anyone chased out of the system can quickly be apprehended. For the thousands working on an employment pass, youre out of luck. And yet, I cant help but notice the parallels with left-wing moralism on this: sexual assault is a form of oppression, theft (even robbery sometimes) is righteous downward redistribution of wealth. It takes tourists and business travellers to Gatwick and Luton airports. Look at the fare compliance b.s. They claim such abuse could be costing the government hundreds of million in long term. Oh, and by the way, only Singapore citizens and permanent residents are eligible to apply. And the London lessons are very applicable to NY. With the Paris flat-fare system and immense freedom of Carte Orange, and of course that in almost every single aspect the system outperformed LU and was cheaper. 27, 2019 I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. EDIT: Ignore that, the CAG thread states OP had an Oyster card, not a freedom pass. The dissatisfaction with Southern was legendary. @borners However Sydney had a horrendously complex British style system, and worse buses and ferries were different (and it was intended to integrate everything), and eventually they couldnt do it under the contract constraints (it was part of the reason they went bust). I wouldnt say that, most people are commuting from the suburbs to the center city, so on weekends the pass can be used to visit the center for shopping, cultural events, etc, not to mention any intermediate destinations along the route. I know that Korea manages to make all of this work at low cost, but elsewhere in Asia, those sprawling, palatial stations with many exits get really expensive. *Except in the actual immigrant nations of USA, Canada and Australia where crime rates are lower in immigrants! But lets not pretend were talking about the best means of revenue collection. So what should the new monthly and single-ride fare cost? In any case, it should be clear that both Paris and Tokyo could be much more compact than they currently are. I agree with the premise of the article that we need to relax enforcement. Highly recommend this firm, Jim was excellent and settled the case very quickly NA October 2021, I am so very grateful to Mr Skelsey who was incredibly professional and thorough when handling my case. I dont think Aaron was saying he agreed with this position. More people either work from home one or two days a week or are often hopping between client sites or their own company locations throughout the week and which might not even be in the same city. Then the S-Bahn probably gets a lot of subsidies at least outside of the trunk areas. 1) Habitual I dont see the benefit of making these trips really cheap for monthly pass users, while very expensive for everyone else. Which doesnt make it any more tolerable but makes it understandable and an intractable problem, only ameliorating with the climb out of poverty and marginality. the. For someone who has no previous convictions, it is, of course, a great shock to be facing a court appearance. A sizable proportion of riders who do not pay would just stop riding altogether, for one. And the metro did develop from a tram system as was once planned for the heavier Stadtbahns. And on a separate point, building rail-based public transit to outer-suburban areas is essential in promoting densification in those areas, around the transit station, ie. In a world trying to coax car drivers out of their cars, or to use them less, youve got to make the system frictionless and fair, or more than fair. And probably linked in to ICE. Your second point sounds like moral panic. For more precise recording, there are teams of inspectors checking every ticket, and in the case of pass holders they ask from where to where the trip goes. New York does poorly on the metric of encouraging monthlies. Aditya Chakrabortty, 19 July 2016. While the number of 15 km trips will be less sensitive to if a trip cost 0 or 0.5 or 1. But no other American city has that excuse. Not being American I dont know my semi-automatic high-powered weapons at all well. I would respond to them with a decent letter apologising and Is it even desirable to reduce commuting costs? This should tell you what happens when the rich west adopts that system. 2) They think its cool Would certainly recommend. If you want to do an apples to apples comparison go find satellite data and use it. Similarily just put a few machines on each bus that electronically can read transport cards, and let passengers get on and off as they like. The German one is to make it easy to follow the law and then use enforcement to not make it so easy to break it. Merde! You must read the notice carefully as it may not be necessary for you to come to court in person. Fares are integrated between buses and trains (which is more than I can say for, say, London), and theres a schedule for fare by distance. I have seen a claim of Ile de France urbanised zone as 3,640/km2. Because the casuals (or potential casuals) will be outraged. Notably the Tokyo is denser than Paris is a Phenomenon o the last 30 years according to the Atlas. Compared to other major European countries, commuting costs take up a considerably larger amount of workers pay (Table 1). However, in states such as California -- where cities and transit authorities can choose to make fare evasion a civil violation under Section 99580 of the Public Utilities (Ile de France has a population density of 1010 people per sq km, that should say. When videos of aggressive arrests surfaced, protesters demonstrated against the police presence by jumping turnstiles en masse. Japan has a norm of subsidized commuting costs (mostly employer subsidized, but the amount of government subsidy increases as income increases since it comes as a tax benefit), and while its cool that people can and do commute via Shinkansen from exurbs over 100km from the city center, I dont think that is behavior the government should promote. If you decide to plead guilty, you can choose to go to court or not. I dont know if the employer paid for the rest (or whatever the discounted price was). I get why that is, but you really want to go somewhat lower than 45 on these grounds. And I speak as a transit user. No one is questioning that it could be done by technology. Americans who support immigration liberalization practically never listen when I try bringing up the liberal work visa, asylum, and naturalization policies of Germany or Sweden. In New York, the SBS system uses proof of payment (POP), but passengers still have to validate fares at bus stops, even if they already have paid, for example if they have a valid monthly pass. With an electronic payment system, you can have pretty non-interfering gates (which also makes it possible to charge per distance), they can be largely symbolic (just a tower you push your card against). Is it a shorter trip? The simply DO NOT have the money to pay so threats of fines are also useless against them., For the LARGER category of habituals though, its either because: Transport For London (TFL) has an aggressive prosecution policy when it comes to Fare Evasion.